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SC newbee

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Re: SC newbee

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[TITLE]
FX Lecture Support

[HOST]
Internet support
-connect 192.168.1.6:5900 -noregistry



[TEXTTOP]
Dubble Click to make a connection
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Re: SC newbee

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Also tested
-connect PublicIP:5900 -noregistry
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Re: SC newbee

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Hmm - interesting.

5900 is default port SERVER is listening to VIEWER connection request
in NORMAL mode.

5500 is default port VIEWER is listening to SC or full SERVER request
in REVERSE mode.

sorry for confusion, but I had all the time in mind
it is port 5500 where your viewer is listening, as it is hardcoded in SC.

Or if it does really listen at 5500, it can never accept SC connection request to port 5900 .
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Re: SC newbee

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Using Port 5500
SC works for private IP address!

but does not work for Public IP.
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Re: SC newbee

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So why 5900 is in helpdesk.txt ? Or do you listen on both ports occsionally ?
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Re: SC newbee

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another summary:
software FWs are inactivated, ports 5500, 5800, 5900 are said to be Forwarded.
You use either 1 SC with more connection items, or more SCs independently with these items:

-connect routerPublicIP:5500 -noregistry
-connect ViewerLocalIP:5500 -noregistry
eventually
-connect 127.0.0.1:5500 -noregistry

IMPORTANT: just 1 space as delimiter, never more

Viewer is listening on 5500 on XP, so does SC is connecting to viewer on 5500. ( 5900 is better to reserve for normal server listening mode )

Vncviewer listening on 5500:

1) connection from SC ( but be sure about 5500 ) or from vncserver
to viewer on same machine 127.0.0.1:5500 works
2) connection to viewer within LAN 192.168.x.x:5500 works
3) connection to viewer from inet to routerpublic:5500 does not work

http abyss server listening on 5500, instead of VNC viewer:

4) connection from browser on same machine
to http://127.0.0.1:5500 works
5) connection from browser within LAN
to http://192.168.x.x:5500 works
6) connection from browser from internet
to http://routerpublic:5500 does not work

7-8-9 The same functionality for "telnet IP port".

Note:Telnet can be used to general simple check, if destination is reachable and listening, whatever is it, either VNC server or vncviewer or http server or whatever else. Any behavior ( like more or less strange texts, screen blanks)
other than text "blablabla connection failed" means SUCCESS.

other question: does viewerPC on LAN have static private IP, or dynamic ?If dynamic - did you älways check if IP used for forwarding is your one ? ( Sorry if asking stupid question, I am getting short from serious ones )

another question you still did not answer ( unless misses ) : Is your LAN in domain ? if yes, it could be that without domain login it will not work.

Is there in LAN any other service running, that is accessible from remote without extra system-scope login ?

One idea:
if possible, for testing phase, try avoid vista. It could bring another problem beside connection one and I am not familiar with vista. Stick on XP on both sides. If resolved, we can involve final vista machine to see, if things change.
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Re: SC newbee

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poutnik wrote:So why 5900 is in helpdesk.txt ? Or do you listen on both ports occsionally ?
5900 was tested for testing purpose.
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Re: SC newbee

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poutnik wrote:another summary:
software FWs are inactivated, ports 5500, 5800, 5900 are said to be Forwarded.
You use either 1 SC with more connection items, or more SCs independently with these items:

-connect routerPublicIP:5500 -noregistry
-connect ViewerLocalIP:5500 -noregistry
eventually
-connect 127.0.0.1:5500 -noregistry

IMPORTANT: just 1 space as delimiter, never more

Viewer is listening on 5500 on XP, so does SC is connecting to viewer on 5500. ( 5900 is better to reserve for normal server listening mode )

Vncviewer listening on 5500:

1) connection from SC ( but be sure about 5500 ) or from vncserver
to viewer on same machine 127.0.0.1:5500 works
2) connection to viewer within LAN 192.168.x.x:5500 works
3) connection to viewer from inet to routerpublic:5500 does not work

http abyss server listening on 5500, instead of VNC viewer:

4) connection from browser on same machine
to http://127.0.0.1:5500 works
5) connection from browser within LAN
to http://192.168.x.x:5500 works
6) connection from browser from internet
to http://routerpublic:5500 does not work

7-8-9 The same functionality for "telnet IP port".

Note:Telnet can be used to general simple check, if destination is reachable and listening, whatever is it, either VNC server or vncviewer or http server or whatever else. Any behavior ( like more or less strange texts, screen blanks)
other than text "blablabla connection failed" means SUCCESS.

other question: does viewerPC on LAN have static private IP, or dynamic ?If dynamic - did you älways check if IP used for forwarding is your one ? ( Sorry if asking stupid question, I am getting short from serious ones )

another question you still did not answer ( unless misses ) : Is your LAN in domain ? if yes, it could be that without domain login it will not work.

Is there in LAN any other service running, that is accessible from remote without extra system-scope login ?

One idea:
if possible, for testing phase, try avoid vista. It could bring another problem beside connection one and I am not familiar with vista. Stick on XP on both sides. If resolved, we can involve final vista machine to see, if things change.
-connect 127.0.0.1:5500 -noregistry on Vista this works.

>Viewer is listening on 5500 on XP, so does SC is >connecting to viewer on 5500. ( 5900 is better to >reserve for normal server listening mode )

Viewer is listening on 5500 on Vista, not XP.

telnet 127.0.0.1 5500
does not work on Vista PC

telnet 192.168.1.6 5500 (from XP to Vista PC)
does not work

Domain is not used.

No other service running on this LAN.
But hpw do I double check this ?


It is impossible to avoid Vista.
I have only a single XP machine and my friends who want me to view at their desktop, they all use Vista except one guy.
Here it is almost impossible to find a new PC with XP installed if the buyer is not a tech guy.


And these friends are non-tech 100%.
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Re: SC newbee

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OK, vista is special, you can forget telnet here...

One issue: password protected screensaver can cause not allowing connection.
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Re: SC newbee

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Screen saver was disbaled from the first installation of Vista.

BTW even TeamViewer cannot work, Vista to XP.
I sent e-mail to their tech support but no response yet.
TeamViewer supports Vista.
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Re: SC newbee

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I will test what will happen if UAC is disabled in Vista.
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Re: SC newbee

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When UAC is disabled, XP can do telnet to Vista.

SC on XP cannot connect to Viewer on Vista using PublicIP.
Can you test XP to XP in the same LAN using PublicIP ?
I want to make sure if this works in XP XP environment.
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Re: SC newbee

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i could be difficult, but solution works for me in schema

Viewer on XPPROSP2 at my work -> corporate firewalls -> myhomerouter > server onW2kpro at home

SC on XPPROSP2 at my work -> corporate firewalls -> myhomerouter > viewer onW2kpro at home

SC on Vista(Home?) (my non tech friend) -> ADSL router/modem -> myhomerouter > viewer onW2kpro

I can do Viewer -> server and SC -> viewer connection on my home w2k through my public router IP.
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Re: SC newbee

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What is the tech support e-mail address for UVC and SC ?
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Re: SC newbee

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I would say the prefer the forum.
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Re: SC newbee

Post by X3 »

pjo wrote:What is the tech support e-mail address for UVC and SC ?
lol

Yea Forum... Unless you want to donate and help maitain support staff... Or pay me and email me...
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