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Beta viewer updated Beta 1.3

Post by Rudi De Vos »

Changes...

-added tabs
-all encoders support cache/local cursor
-no more black rects after encoder changes
-putpixel replaced by blit ( less cpu and faster)
-directx when both server/viewer have 16 or 32 bit

TightEncoder is current disabled, hard to make it working with blit

A lot of code is new, and there can be a lot of bugs in it.

Please report
+new options/changes
+bugs

http://sc.uvnc.com/V2
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Post by redge »

bugs beta 1.3

[topic=3559][/topic] (double click)
[topic=3413][/topic] (lost remote, or/and black screen after vnc password
[topic=3237][/topic] or connected, wallpaper not removed

open viewer... file... new connection, again file ... new connection write socket error or black screen (quick option = auto)
then close viewer and open again viewer and back as normal usage

lost remote if viewer inactiv (freeze MDI child viewer, local dot mice move OK)



changes
- autohide Tab on full screen
- added tab (add X for close close the tab) like opera (not like firefox)
  • add menu "View" (move to this menu: Screen Size , Colors, Refresh, toggle view only Alt+Ctrl+F3
  • Windows ... Tab Ctrl+F6
  • modify menu "Tools" (and put content of "special keys", content of "Options", manage add-on ...
new options use standard windows shortcut
  • address IP/hostname bar (History F4,)
  • File ..."new tab" Ctrl+T, close Tab Ctrl+W
  • File ... "new windows" Ctrl+N
  • File... "Save" Ctrl+S
  • File... "Save as"
  • File... listening... Edit (dsmplugin) or not necessary if SSL supported
  • File ... "Open" Ctrl+O ... Browse network for LAN and VPN only)
  • "Edit", (copy Ctrl+C, paste Ctrl+V , undo Ctrl+Z, Delete Del )
  • "Favorites (and put all file.vnc as tab and sub tab to folder \documents and settings\username\favorites (right click with add, separator
    (add Favorites Ctrl+D/organize favorites Ctrl+B)
  • "Help" F1
toolbar icons
  • remove "close connection" (depend of MDI exist or not) user use X box
  • add toggle release/take control (instead toggle remote input)
  • add toggle show/hide screen
  • add toggle enable/disable scaling
  • add history if there no ip/hostname bar address available
  • add favorites
background Parent viewer
use windows theme
MDI child windows enable/disable auto align to grid


winvnc 1.0.1 as service system + video hook driver
vncviewer1.3beta
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Updated
+Mouse move during connection -->connection lost
Fixed: I guess this problem must also exist in 1.0.1 but manifest less.

+added X
+tab hide fullscreen
+added mouse messages to server are limited to 20/sec
(network kill when to many little 4k messages are send, we now send 20x 20k instead of 100x4k)
+default to autoscaling

**Toolbar icons are hard to change...
The full toolbar is 1 bmp image, making it dynamic require several bitmaps with different images.

**menu is easyer to change (graphical)
Have to wait for last, changes does not impact code.
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Post by redge »

connect, initial screen loading... zero control
...
+added mouse messages to server are limited to 20/sec
(network kill when to many little 4k messages are send, we now send 20x 20k instead of 100x4k)
vncviewer.4Beta.exe more slowly !

btw problem with some variable example pointer of options.vnc
"initial screen loading" problem
delete options.vnc
debug add lack of ~3 sec initializing + ~5 sec for show the remote screen of Pentium III - 650 MHz winvnc 1.0.1
viewer.4Beta on Celeron 1.5GHz

very less impact with vncviewer 1.0.1
depend of host winvnc computer performance, not network card
especially big effect on slow computer host winvnc

quick option=auto or LAN same behavior
always try 2 steps delete options.vnc then try again without delete them !
btw to new feature of MDI ?
+default to autoscaling
not yet true ! or you forgot to compile the change ?
not available btw error reading options.vnc or other environment variables
+tab hide fullscreen
Tab hidden OK
the free place of Tab is not available for full screen, NOK
added X,
you add function like firefox not requested OK
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Personally I can't get Beta 3 OR Beta 4 to even show me anything but a black screen after typing in a password. Tested it on three servers. Nothing - just a black screen on them all. It shows the receive light for awhile, then stops.

On all three I re-checked the server's status using Viewer 1.0.1, which loaded the screen almost instantly.

EDIT: It might make a difference that I am running the Viewer on Windows Server 2003?


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~3 sec initializing + ~5 sec for show the remote screen of Pentium III - 650 MHz winvnc 1.0.1
Fixed: Initial screen load was send before encoder set: Raw
h*w*bitsperpixel....takes a lot of time 5Mb for 1280x1024
tab hide fullscreen
Fullscreen-->maximize window OK
Miximize window-->FUllscreen NOK

Tab fixed
X
Don't use Firefox or opera, but the X at the current spot is logical to understand without the need of a manual.
Queued mouse messages
This is indeed slower on a real cable lan, but when the latency raise
it becomes faster.
I better make active/deactive depended on the encoder.
Ultra/hextile ->old method else new methdo
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Can't get beta 4 to connect to anyone either =(

Only beta 1 and 2 have worked for me.


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new update 1.5
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Post by Ares »

Rudi De Vos wrote:new update 1.5
Works like a charm =) I'll do a more thorough bug report later - now, though, I need to run to class lol

EDIT: Actually I was messing around with it real quick after the posting of this message, and it was working fine - but then I took my cursor out of the Viewer, to the right, and the Viewer had some weird scrambled pattern show on the screen and then the Viewer crashed. But hey, at least we figured out what kept me from connecting to begin with lol. I'll troubleshoot it more when I get back from class!


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Moved to 1.6...

Terrible memory leak in previous versions...
None of the memory was ever released !!!!!!!!!!! :(
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None of the memory was ever released !!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not really sure !
Look the wish list of bug report rel 1.0.0 and 1.0.0
--Edit -- added [topic=3873][/topic] --- end edit ---

Not negativ, just remark
I think is time for fix the list bug reported before add new more bugs ? :|
You coding so quick viewer V2 and forgot time for fix big bugs before publish ;-)

So, positive,
you have fixed some bugs and you added very very good feature list requested and most appreciate. :D
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Post by redge »

better than my very difficult english explanation,
there a video made with with UltraVideo can help you about what I'm trying with the new viewer1.6beta
I don't know the best codec for compress video so a leave avi (without sound)


http://www.swiss-adsl.net/redge/redge_viewer1_6beta.rar

- auto scale, full screen windowed, total Full Screen
- double click mice (very difficult)
- add address bar like a web browser
- tab (position like firefox or Opera)
- screen corruption, refresh no effect
- crash vncviewer close MDI child at end of video


anyway, this build 1.6beta is very much better than all others previous :-D
Improve this good way of debuging
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Debugging was done mechanical :)

Boundchecker and vtune are wonderfull tools...
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bug report vncviewer 1.6 (build september 6 2005)
symptom:
mice, double click fail with vncviewer 1.6 on remote computer winvnc 1.0.1

workaround:]
for obtain a double click, actually press quickly 3x "left button of mice" for open folder, document or start application
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vncviewer 1.6 beta File... Start Listener

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vncviewer 1.6 beta (build september 5 2005)
vncviewer -listen lunch viewer windows instead just show icon on systray

or

lunch vncviewer 1.6 beta ...
File... Start Listener... viewer doesn't close viewer and lunch vncviewer at systray icon

so,
File... Start listener don't allow to configure dsmplugin
need to be started manually from command line and their lunch viewer windowed instead icon systray
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Viewer updated....
Image
http://sc.uvnc.com/V2

Final took some time to implement proper the multi window interface...

+Some graphical cosmetics for a better looking bar.
Include the extra _X buttons..
+Error on close viewer should be solved.

+Added back the scrollbars for normal mode, but they remove themself when your viewer has the framebuffer size. (request from 1.00)
Only, the Maximize restore button when in Normal screen mode does not
behave like a standard mdi window.
The problem is that it become very ugly when you maximize a 1024x768 on a 1280x1024 screen. Part outsite the full normal size is rubbisch.

So the Maximize buttons has 3 states.
First -> it put the window in autoscale
Sec -> Maximize in autoscale
3the-> restore back in normal mode.

+Special window keys...
The keys are auto used, when mouse is over viewer and viewer has focus,
alt-tab is send remote and not local.

It should be as stable as 1.0.1 viewer..i hope

Any feedback is still welcome..
I know there where many requests, but what NEED to be added.
Remaining bugs...

Still to do
+I want to be able to save all open viewers, including position.
So on load, you can restore all connections.
+Add the online creator insite the viewer (offline creation)
+.....

update:scrollbars seems to have some bug
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Post by redge »

1st seen a great improvement, OK :-D

double click fixed, OK :-)
X close without crash, OK :-)
+Added back the scrollbars for normal mode, OK


The keys are auto used, when mouse is over viewer and viewer has focus,
alt-tab is send remote and not local.
1st screen focus, OK,
2nd mice focus of another windows screen, NOK


add to screen (is possible?)
  • viewer startup scale as remote screen server
    (autoscale if to big or self open as factory scale of remote server)
  • Auto Scrolling (or too much complex for use with multi MDI child ?)
because is a beta release, I'm not worry about below:
There a lots of screens corruptions playing with multi MDI child and screen (Normal, Auto Scale, Full screen, tiles, minimize, restore, full, etc...)
I put a video to explain that issue or already known from your experience ?

--- begin edited -----
replaced a wrong word of my translation french to english
toggle cascade/tab (tab like firefox, Opera) (difficult to watch tab and cascade, let confuse me about some hidden screens windowed)
so I can see all screen windows (active or passiv) as separate tabs like firefox/Opera
not watch all windows and tab but only watch windowed screen tiles and tab or only tabbed
so let the choice user to select his best view tabbed and casscaded or only tabbed or only cascaded
--- end edit --------
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Ok,

Made it a bit more look as Opera

Start-->mdi fullscreen
moved tab to top
Scrollbars in mdi fullscreen block Application size

TileV and TileH: We actual need something like arage on screen.
It does not make sense to tile in one direction, as screen get to much deformed to do anything.

Have to stay like this for a while.
I haven't done nothing else then playing with the viewer for more then 3 weeks, getting bad reports that way...

I Need to finish some commercial stuff.
But RTP could also be usefull for UltraVNC...time not total lost.

Rudi

PS: Menu layout... perhaps someone can make a list.
File
->
->
Screen->
-->color->
Changing the layout is just drag and drop in the resource manager.
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Rudi De Vos wrote:Have to stay like this for a while.
I haven't done nothing else then playing with the viewer for more then 3 weeks, getting bad reports that way...
Let me say an BIG so sorry for use a wrong word, my english is very poor.
so I update my previous post for don't let you bad thinking about my wrong word. Sorry again. :oops:
I Need to finish some commercial stuff.
But RTP could also be usefull for UltraVNC...time not total lost.
You absoluty not lost your time for the GREAT work you made
but is very difficult to translate to good english some of my words !
please, continue your very good work :-D
Feel good to add RTP and LZO to UltraVNC V2.

PS: Menu layout... perhaps someone can make a list.
your menu list is almost OK (as my limited knowledge)

just drag "Options" and "Special Keys" to:

Tools
-> Options
-> Special Keys

Have a nice week end:-)
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You didn't say anything wrong...
Perhaps it is also my english that not 100% clear.

Let's try again....

I get bad reports from the company i have to do a commerical job for.
They are wating for a while....but i just find it more fun to play with vnc.
I can't let them wait forever.
The commercial job, involve RTP. Perhaps this could be of use for a future VNC version.


The beta viewer also need some feedback first.... it already looks good,
but i know when more people start testing it, so,e things will not work or break.
I can use the test period for finished the comm job.

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vncviewer 1.8beta (september 10 2005)

add new feature:
- total full screen borderless so genuine full screen


to fix
  • parent vncviewer windowed
    viewer monitor 1280x1024
  • locked on lowest MDI child 800x600 screen normal
    multiple [icons, rezize, close, ,minimize, maximize] appear !!!!
    resize windows
    MDI1 tab screens 800x600 windowed normal full screen
    MDI2 tab screen 1024x768 normal <-- not resizable)
    unpossible to full full screen as normal the the 2nd MDI child 1024x768!
  • autoreconnect (as default value) like RealVNC 4.1
    (if password fail prompt for password again or connection lost, reconnect ?)
  • mouse scrolling lost since release beta vncviewer 1.2
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Fullscreen:

You can not fullscreen when in normal mode....
1024x768 is smaller then 1280x1024

Fullscreen button need to be disabled when the focus child is not in autoscale mode.

After fullscreen, the minimze/restore/close from the child is gone.
Need to fix that somehow.
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start vncviewer connect to an existing IP address
Cancel unreachable winvnc frozen vncviewer without any error (not responding)

ip partner exist and answer to ping request
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Post by eo »

The new viewer is great! Will be testing this week.

When connecting to the repeater, then clicking cancel, causes the app to hang or "not responding".
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eo wrote:When connecting to the repeater, then clicking cancel, causes the app to hang or "not responding".
Technically this happens with the Viewer 1.0.1 as well, you just don't see it. Click cancel when you're trying to connect to a host that isn't working, then look in task manager. Vncviewer.exe is still there. Eventually it will time out and close.

The problem with the new viewer is that it waits for this time out process in the foreground instead of the background, sort of.


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It errors out on me if I toggle back and forth between VNC windows.

Will this thing be able to read an INI or XML file to get a list of connections to make upon launch?
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Personally I'm still hoping for a "Favorites" list at the top... ;)

Maybe even a "open folder in tabs" feature, like Firefox, to open up multiple connections at the same time.


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Planned

+open folder and let select .vnc files.
Or dump the folder content in a drop down box (like a iexplorer adressbar)
+restore to close state: save state of multiple viewers
(possible this will be done by some memory dump, non editable)

Current.

On hold until okt. First need some feedback on bugs.
All changes made where only interface changes. First thoose bugs need to be solved, to hard to trace bugs if to many parts get changed.

To solve a bug, i need to be able to repeat it. Please provide some action to perform to trigger to bug.
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Post by eo »

If I have multiple sessions open, and I click the "X" to close the session. It closes the entire viewer. (i guess basically closing all sessions)
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Can you change it so it looks for parameters passed to it, and if it doesnt frind any, then it opens with a "create new connection", so I dont have manually go click on it, and I can properly click on a .vnc file and have it automatically connect?

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